Minutes for Meeting of 05-09-2001

Hello Ramblers!


GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS:

1.) Important: Unless otherwise announced, the meeting place for departures
for all hikes is behind the Park Student Center, in the parking lot.

2.) Future hiking club meetings will continue to be held in the Forbes
building, Room 307.

3.) For information about the club, hikes, and meeting places, check out
our website: [http://www.biocom.arizona.edu/ramblers/].

4.) Additional hiking information is available on Andy Flach's trail guide,
which is located on the Sierra Club website:
[http://www.sierraclub.org/chapters/az/trail_guide/].

5.) There was a slide contest yesterday. Results will be presented in a
separate announcement. Stay tuned.


ANNOUNCEMENT: CLUB EQUIPMENT:

It is important to return all borrowed Ramblers Hiking Club equipment to
Ross ASAP: [rosslampert@hotmail.com] or 325-5912. In addition, Ross will be
out of town from June 20, 2001 to July 18, 2001. If club equipment needs to
be borrowed, then prior arrangements will need to be made.


PAST HIKES:

1.) Matt went on the rogaining trip to the Mogollon Rim, where there was
some snow. He also saw elk. Matt came in 3rd place.

2.) Wolfgang went on a moonlight hike in Saguaro National Park East on
Friday evening.

3.) Mitch went on a trip up to Utah, hiking in the Grand Gulch area and the
Goblin State Park. He also visited some of the Anasazi Indian ruins and
hiked in some slot canyons.

4.) Steve and Loretta went up Pima Canyon on Saturday, camping over night.
The hiked to Mt. Kimball and Window Rock, returning Monday morning.

5.) Loretta's "mystery hike" involved going to some bowling.

6.) Michael Dumke went on a big southwest trip. He went to Yosemite
National Park, hiking in the Yosemite valley and backpacking to the Little
Yosemite Valley. Then he went to Arches National Park, where he did many
short hikes on many interesting and scenic trails. He also went to Bryce
Canyon National Park, where he did a hike on the Navajo Loop Trail and also
some smaller hikes.

7.) Chris did a hike up to the Romero Pools on Saturday.


FUTURE HIKES:

1.) Loretta's Rocky Point trip is cancelled. Instead, the plan is to go up
Mt. Wrightson in the Santa Rita Mountains, starting at Madera Canyon.
Departure is Saturday (5/12/2001) @ 6:00 AM. Rated "A", and bring lots of
water. If interested, contact Loretta at [llp2877@yahoo.com] or 977-3442.

2.) Liz rescheduled her Sedona trip. If interested, contact and RSVP Liz:
[enc40@hotmail.com].

3.) Robbie is planning a trip to Utah, with information as follows:
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Hello Ramblers,

I just got out of this week's meeting, and an idea came to mind. I'm
planning a trip up to Northern Utah to see family, sometime soon after
finals (May 12th)for about a week's length. I wanted to explore a bit in
southern Utah to check out some old familiar places (Bryce Canyon, Valley
of the Gods, Monument Valley, San Rafael Swell, and other place with no
names). Then drive up to Brigham City and spend a few days there to see the
family. If anyone would like to come along for this trip your company and
help with fuel would be delightful. Even better would be a reliable
automobile if you got one. My old rambler wagon is not as reliable I must
admit, but I still love it. For the days I'll be with family, I know many
great places to visit while in the Northern Utah area, such as Logan
Canyon, Bear Lake, Willard Peak, and other natural areas. I might be
partial, but this area is very beautiful. You'll see why Brigham Young said
"this is the place", and it wasn't because he was fanatical leader of the
Mormons, he had genuine eye for beauty me thinks. Give me a telephone call
(792-0970) so we can talk it out. With or without autos, as long as there
is one with enough room. Otherwise, I'll cruse up in the rambler, and trust
in "Triple A Plus" auto plan.

Utah's theme: "Its a pretty great state", probably referring to the great
salt lake. It is also known as the "beehive state", and having "the
greatest snow on earth". Ok, now I'm just rambling. Thanks for hearing me
out.

Robbie Hannawacker
still VP of Ramblers hiking club of UA
(520) 792-0970
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4.) Loretta is planning another "mystery trip", to be determined. Stay
tuned to the listserve.

5.) Joe is planning a trip to southern Utah and northern Arizona from about
May 16, 2001, through the Memorial Day Weekend. Details still remain to be
worked out; however, if interested in joining him on the trip or any part
of it, feel free to contact him at [jleisz@ag.arizona.edu].

6.) Steve Newcomb's trip to Paria Canyon in May is full, but send him your
name to get on a waiting list if interested, just in case there still are
any cancellations. The departure is Wednesday (5/16/2001) and the return is
Sunday (5/20/2001). See Jan 24th minutes for details. Contact:
[sanewcomb@yahoo.com].

7.) Loretta is planning a trip to the Gila Wilderness in New Mexico for the
Memorial Day weekend. Departure is Friday evening (5/25/2001) and the
return is Monday (5/28/2001). There will be some backpacking to some hot
springs along the Gila River. If interested, contact Loretta at
[llp2877@yahoo.com] or 977-3442.

8.) Ross is making arrangements for a 4-day backpacking trip in the Rincon
Mountains, east of Tucson. The departure is Wednesday (6/6/2001) @ 8:00 PM
from the Park Student Center. The return is on Sunday (6/10/2001). This
trip involves backpacking up the Turkey Creek Trail to the Spud Rock
campground, setting up base camp, and do day hikes from that campground.
The 1st day is rated "A+", and the other days are rated "B". If interested,
RSVP Ross: [rosslampert@hotmail.com].


ELECTION RESULTS:

Regarding the election, concerning the updates to the Ramblers Constitution
and the Club Policy Document, all the votes have been counted. The result
is an overwhelming majority of people favoring the updates to the Ramblers
Constitution, and the acceptance of the new Club Policy document.


OTHER EVENTS:

Conference: Wolf Reintroduction
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To those of you who support wolf reintroduction in east-central Arizona,
there is a VERY important chance to have your voice heard (and possibly
keep the Feds from pulling out of the program!). If the Feds pull out, it
could act as a "green light" for poachers to go after the wolves currently
in the wild. Right now, poaching is at a minimum due to the enforcement
efforts of the AZ G&F and the USFWS through patrols and telemetry...if they
pull out, the opponents to reintroduction may have the opportunity to kill
off these animals. If you cannot attend, you may want to fire off a letter
to the address located at the end of this message.

Mike I.
[oreo420@gci-net.com]

Following is an alert from Sandy Bahr of the Sierra Club:
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WOLF ALERT!

Please attend this critical Arizona Game & Fish Commission meeting on
Saturday May 12, 2001 at 1:30 PM, at the Manor House Conference Center
located at 415 E. Hwy 70 in Safford Arizona. The Sierra Club will be
helping to arrange carpools, so please call Sandy Bahr at (602) 253-8633 or
email me at grandcanyon@qwest.net and I will make sure you are included in
the carpooling arrangements. We are looking at carpools from both Phoenix
and Tucson at a minimum. It is critical that you attend this meeting and
show your support for the Mexican Gray Wolf recovery program and also for
the participation of the Game and Fish Department in this program. It is
quite possible that the Commission will vote to withdraw its participation
in the program. The chair of the Game and Fish Commission, Dennis Manning,
is very strongly opposed to the wolf program and has a new ally in southern
Arizona rancher Commissioner Sue Chilton.

Please tell the Commissioners that:
* Good sound science supports wolf recovery and so does the public. Wolves
have demonstrated they can hunt and kill prey, bear and rear their young,
and do all of the things expected of wild born wolves.
* Wolves played an important role in our southwestern ecosystems in the
past and will help restore natural balance and diversity to our native
wildlife in the future.
* Arizonans support the return of the Mexican gray wolf to the wilds of
Arizona.
* In the three years the wolves have been in the wild, and especially
recently, there have been minimal impacts to nearby communities. The staff
of both the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the Arizona Game and Fish
Department have gone out of their way to accommodate the small, but vocal
minority that oppose wolves.
* The Arizona Game and Fish Commission has a trust responsibility for all
of Arizona's wildlife and should not leave this program to the federal
government alone. Arizona can and should be a leader in the
re-establishment of native wildlife species.
* Wolf recovery will continue through the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service,
because it is required by the Endangered Species Act and supported by most
Arizonans. If Arizona Game and Fish is not involved then Arizona loses the
voice of its own wildlife professionals in this program.
* Nothing in the first three years of this program warrants the Department
withdrawing its support.

If you cannot make it to this meeting, please write and send a letter to:

Dennis Manning, Chair
Arizona Game & Fish Commission
2221 W. Greenway Rd.
Phoenix, AZ 85023-4399
fax (602) 789-3299, email to [mketterer@gf.state.az].

Thank you for your support of Arizona's wolves!
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ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING RAMBLERS T-SHIRTS

Ramblers T-shirts are still available! The shirts look great! They are made
with Hanes preshrunk cotton. They are natural (a light tan) with dark brown
print. The design on the back is an accurate drawing of a hiker's boots
with cholla cactus segments stuck to it. On the front upper left, it has
printed: RAMBLERS HIKING CLUB, with a list of seven important uses for the
shirt in case of an emergency. There are 3 sizes available: mediums, large,
and extra large. They are only $7 a shirt. Place your order to reserve you
shirt by making payment to our Treasurer Eric: [shiers@ag.arizona.edu].
Phone: 791-0232. NOTE: Old T-shirts are also available at a discounted
price of $5.00 OBO.


If anyone wants to add information or post additional announcements for any
hikes and club business, please feel free to use this listserve. Meanwhile,
keep Rambling!

Wolfgang